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  1. Thread: Finney

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    Hey Mike, I just heard back from Stu...

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    Very interesting about Jack. He makes what looks...

    Very interesting about Jack. He makes what looks like a goat hump, but maybe it is just early PPT. Something to ponder!!!


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    Thanks, Max. Informative post, and it was the...

    Thanks, Max. Informative post, and it was the furthest thing from a "diatribe". This paragraph identifies the source of the "snap" that Kelvin describes in the video, which can be observed in...
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    3899 Shut up, Mike. Seriously, nobody gives a...

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    Shut up, Mike. Seriously, nobody gives a shit about your thoughts on this or any other topic. Why don't you go check on the Snickers inventory?




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  5. Thread: Finney

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    3898 I agree, Kel should take that video down,...

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    I agree, Kel should take that video down, because you are misrepresenting it in order to discredit him. He says nothing about the "snap" initiating the downswing, yet clearly you are telling...
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    3895 Nope, I haven't heard back, but didn't...

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    Nope, I haven't heard back, but didn't really expect to. They are smart guys and no doubt figured out when they got my email that you are up to your old tricks, creating acrimonious pissing...
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    Let's set the record straight: my exchange with Dr. Kwon regarding the role of the spine engine in the golf swing

    Mike Finney and his proxies are deliberately misrepresenting to their biomechanist friends my views on the role in the golf swing of coupled motion of the spine in order to illicit damning responses,...
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    3878 Yep, I'm done with you. As my wife is...

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    Yep, I'm done with you. As my wife is fond of telling me, only a fool argues with a fool, and the prior four days of exchanges has proven her right once again. Despite running off the cliff...
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    Here is the question I sent McGill and Cheetham:...

    Here is the question I sent McGill and Cheetham:

    My understanding from the literature is that when the lumbar spine is in lordosis (which would be the case if the pelvis was in anterior pelvic...
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    3867 Well, of course that's the reaction you...

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    Well, of course that's the reaction you got. You obviously didn't explain the contribution of coupled motion of the spine to pelvis rotation in the downswing correctly and obviously...
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    3859 Wrong again, Wile E. The edition of The...

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    Wrong again, Wile E. The edition of The Spinal Engine I have was updated and published in October 2008. In any case, publication date is irrelevant. Either the models are validated or they...
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    3857 Yes, Kel is describing how release of...

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    Yes, Kel is describing how release of the coupled motion will accelerate the shoulders, so "spine engine" is too broad of a description.

    BTW, that video was posted by Kelvin, not me,...
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    3856 Guess what? Chapter 6 of The Spinal...

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    Guess what? Chapter 6 of The Spinal Engine summarizes five experiments that validate Gracovetskty's model, and concludes with this:


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    Perhaps you can summarize for us how...
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    Well, it's worse than that; he starts off...

    Well, it's worse than that; he starts off stating, authoritatively:

    "And when you say "lower handle twist velocirty, consequently, (lower) club face rate of closure"....you make the Jeffy leap...
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    For those interested, the crux of the...

    For those interested, the crux of the McGill/Gracovetsky debate:


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    And the reality: two modelers saying their model is better with no way to prove it.


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    3849 Now you're doing that spooky thing you...

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    Now you're doing that spooky thing you were doing to Lucas and others at the PGA show: repeating back to them what they just said. Very persuasive debating technique!

    By the way, what I...
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    3845 Why would Cheetham mention any of those...

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    Why would Cheetham mention any of those three things? Coupled motion of the spine is a phenomena first observed and reported in the literature before Gracovetsky was born. Both you and Jeff...
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    See this thread for a discussion of what's going...

    See this thread for a discussion of what's going on in baseball:

    http://jeffygolf.com/showthread.php?1216-quot-Modern-pitching-mechanics-quot-and-the-epidemic-of-arm-injuries-in-American-baseball...
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    3843 I like Phil, he quickly understood what...

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    I like Phil, he quickly understood what Kelvin was talking about during the Golf Biomechanists exchanges a couple of summers ago and was taking the conversation in a constructive direction...
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    Yes, droves of American pitchers with blown UCLs....

    Yes, droves of American pitchers with blown UCLs.

    My view is that McGill is myopically, perhaps fanatically, focused on avoiding spinal flexion, to the point that his views are causing injuries to...
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    3837 Right. So, despite being at this since...

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    Right. So, despite being at this since Saturday, you still haven't come up with a single thing that I was wrong about for the "past four years" other than the hip decel, yet you still carry...
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    3836 Actually, there are peer-reviewed...

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    Actually, there are peer-reviewed papers that quantify the conversion of the lateral forces on the lumbar spine into the axial torque applied to the pelvis, using lumbar spines from...
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    Yes, many, if not most, of his papers on the...

    Yes, many, if not most, of his papers on the spine are based on vertebrae taken from pigs. You know, they walk around on their hind legs just like humans, so the vertebrae must have identical...
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    3835 That's nice. I have a specific question:...

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    That's nice. I have a specific question: where can we find the peer-reviewed paper that confirms experimentally the conclusions of McGill's 1986 paper that Gracovetsky references in his book?...
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    Off the cliff again, three more times... 3832...

    Off the cliff again, three more times...

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    Wrong. First, I think all are in agreement that the musculature surrounding the spine throughout the upper body, which power the spine engine,...
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